30 replies to this topic

[Nicky Rain]

srsly wtf is going on? Short and quick o_o i swear those old fuks are dead

[Rammstein]

what's SOPA and PIPA anyway?
in Morocco SOPA means soup and PIPA means sunflower seeds
EDIT: nevermind I googled them and now I know what they are

Edited by Rammstein, 19 January 2012 - 10:16 AM.

[Lelouch V Britannia]

LOL. Well It's easy as fuck. They wanna stop the gouvernment from killing "Freedom" with people's help aka petitions!

[Troll]

@Ramm well basically these are 2 anti-piracy bills proposed by the US govt. to stop torrents etc i believe.. I OPPOSE! D:<

[Nocturno Culto]

ramm silly brownie

[qwerty]

Not stop torrents, but basically harshly monitor websites, and giving the government direct access to simply shut down a website which "supposedly" has infringement material.
And that means loss of things like wikipedia articles, youtube videos and all things that require users to post stuff. The right to share is being taken away.
Basically, MOLIYO can come around and shut down every private server to date without any opposition, or the owner of the server to have a chance to defend himself..hes basically a criminal according to SOPA/PIPA.

I strongly recommend every to go against it.

[Denzel]

WE ARE ALL AGAINST!!!

[Troll]

YES! D:

[qwerty]

Which is why, Wikipedia, 4chan, reddit and a few others were blacked out yesterday to oppose PIPA/SOPA.

[Troll]

Yea.. saw.

[Parade]

with those two STUPID bills being passed.. they will not only block certain sites such as Wikipedia, 4chan, reddit but even youtube. think about it.. all those music videos we watch? what are those? those people do not have the copyrights to them. They will all be removed...


AND just because they think blocking our IP's from accessing those sites will do anything.. we can still get around it. A simple trick already is to just type in the websites IP adress.. boom, direct access or just use a proxy. Look at it like this.. if you upload a Micheal Jackson song.. you can get 5 years in prision. Thats more time in prision than the doctor who killed micheal is in for...


oh and lookie here.. ill edit this in http://www.digitalsp...-officials.html

If you haven't already opposed it.. do. http://americancensorship.org/



If you dont.. this could happen

Edited by Parade, 19 January 2012 - 09:46 PM.

[qwerty]

Parade, on 19 January 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

with those two STUPID bills being passed.. they will not only block certain sites such as Wikipedia, 4chan, reddit but even youtube. think about it.. all those music videos we watch? what are those? those people do not have the copyrights to them. They will all be removed...


AND just because they think blocking our IP's from accessing those sites will do anything.. we can still get around it. A simple trick already is to just type in the websites IP adress.. boom, direct access or just use a proxy. Look at it like this.. if you upload a Micheal Jackson song.. you can get 5 years in prision. Thats more time in prision than the doctor who killed micheal is in for...


oh and lookie here.. ill edit this in http://www.digitalsp...-officials.html

If you haven't already opposed it.. do. http://americancensorship.org/



If you dont.. this could happen

Thats very true, for example if i write "thepiratebay.org" as part of a reply in this forum, i can be sentenced to a fine as i "supposedly" referenced a website that infringes in copyrights. And for that, boom a fine+time in jail.

[Lelouch V Britannia]

Just throw everyone in jail ffs and done..

[Maximilian]

it's just DNS block afaik o_O (not sure) you can get in the site using the direct address i think

[qwerty]

Maximilian, on 20 January 2012 - 02:10 PM, said:

it's just DNS block afaik o_O (not sure) you can get in the site using the direct address i think

Nope its not just a simple DNS restrict.

Also, Proxies will also not work because they too will be illegal, and your local ISP will monitor your internet usage.

[Nunok]

we were better 2 days ago, why did they want fuck all?

[Nicky Rain]

mhm... but in the UK i can enter any websites there are o_o

[Troll]

just got this mail from a place i was voting against sopa/pipa

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Hi everyone!

A big hurrah to you!!!!! We’ve won for now -- SOPA and PIPA were dropped by Congress today -- the votes we’ve been scrambling to mobilize against have been cancelled.

The largest online protest in history has fundamentally changed the game. You were heard.

On January 18th, 13 million of us took the time to tell Congress to protect free speech rights on the internet. Hundreds of millions, maybe a billion, people all around the world saw what we did on Wednesday. See the amazing numbers here and tell everyone what you did.

This was unprecedented. Your activism may have changed the way people fight for the public interest and basic rights forever.

The MPAA (the lobby for big movie studios which created these terrible bills) was shocked and seemingly humbled. “‘This was a whole new different game all of a sudden,’ MPAA Chairman and former Senator Chris Dodd told the New York Times. ‘[PIPA and SOPA were] considered by many to be a slam dunk.’”

“'This is altogether a new effect,' Mr. Dodd said, comparing the online movement to the Arab Spring. He could not remember seeing 'an effort that was moving with this degree of support change this dramatically' in the last four decades, he added."

Tweet with us, shout on the internet with us, let's celebrate: Round of applause to the 13 million people who stood up - #PIPA and #SOPA are tabled 4 now. #13millionapplause

We're indebted to everyone who helped in the beginning of this movement -- you, and all the sites that went out on a limb to protest in November -- Boing Boing and Mozilla Foundation (and thank you Tumblr, 4chan)! And the grassroots groups -- Public Knowledge, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Demand Progress, CDT, and many more.

#SOPA and #PIPA will likely return in some form. But when they do, we'll be ready. Can you make a donation to Fight for the Future, to help us keep this fire going?

We changed the game this fall, and we're not gonna stop. $8, $20, every little bit helps.

13 million strong,

Tiffiniy, Holmes, Joshua, Phil, CJ, Donny, Douglas, Nicholas, Dean, David S. and Moore... Fight for the Future!


P.S. China's internet censorship system reminds us why the fight for democratic principles is so important:

In the New Yorker: "Fittingly, perhaps, the discussion has unfolded on Weibo, the Twitter-like micro-blogging site that has a team of censors on staff to trim posts with sensitive political content. That is the arrangement that opponents of the bill have suggested would be required of American sites if they are compelled to police their users’ content for copyright violations. On Weibo, joking about SOPA’s similarities to Chinese censorship was sensitive enough that some posts on the subject were almost certainly deleted (though it can be hard to know).
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After Chinese Web users got over the strangeness of hearing Americans debate the merits of screening the Web for objectionable content, they marvelled at the American response. Commentator Liu Qingyan wrote:

‘We should learn something from the way these American Internet companies protested against SOPA and PIPA. A free and democratic society depends on every one of us caring about politics and fighting for our rights. We will not achieve it by avoiding talk about politics.’"

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(press release is here: https://fightforthef...press-releases/)

[Nunok]

Baby i like that!

[Troll]

LOL u troll :C